Night Slashers X - by BonusJZ

[baritonomarchetto77]

Very good work Bonus, this mod is the new reference for incoming works: excellent colors, gameplay, everithing is balanced and for the second time i felt like playing a commercial game. You know, i am not a "1 credit only" gamer, so i could not reach the end... but thats a problem of mine 

[Fightn Words]

Die In Fire, I just read your post- sorry I skipped over it before posting - thanks for the advice. Yeah BurnKing, I definitely died- my guess is I died & the script kicked in not being able to take in to account my having zero health. Bonusjz has already said he'd look at it so my post was irrelevant.

[BonusJZ]

No its random engine bug ... there is a check for amount health left  but if somehow this frame are skipped (when the check is performed) ... well i need to add more same scripts on following recover frames to prevent it (also successfully recovery restore 4 points of health)

But i see you was on 1cc and with pretty good score as for this boss fight so I'm really sorry FW 

You know, i am not a "1 credit only" gamer, so i could not reach the end... but thats a problem of mine  envious Grin

Don't worry , for me its not matter how far you reach but how you was fighting .By the way yesterday I recorded my 2 player 1 cc AvP run - I add it on me youtube channel later ....

http://2dfighter.com/freeplay/2DF%20FreePlay%20Client.application?replay=53/2009/116/35286_21568_128852553821026250.2df&p1=motonari1029&p2=BonusJZ

[Damon Caskey]

bonusjz, since I haven't seen where and how you are running your check I can't tell if this will apply, but you might want to consider the on death and onfall script as possible remedies.

The ondeath runs before the engine actually applies death status, so you could (if you wish) potentially "bring them back to life" and perform the counter seamlessly, ignore the counter attempt, or whatever you want to do in that situation. Neither of these scripts rely on animation frames being just right, so they may do the job for you without having to slap individual checks over all the place.

DC

[BonusJZ]

Recover is possible only in default fall animation if health is >= 3 and only in highest peak of fall anim by pressing or holding jump button .
In other words some aifalgs are not disabled and entity is treated as projectile or still in grab etc.

Again for time being (till update) just pause game ,exit to menu ,chose load and replay last level with previous  lives ,credits, scores etc.
 

[Damon Caskey]

Recover is possible only in default fall animation if health is >= 3 and only in highest peak of fall anim by pressing or holding jump button .
In other words some aifalgs are not disabled and entity is treated as projectile or still in grab etc.

Again for time being (till update) just pause game ,exit to menu ,chose load and replay last level with previous  lives ,credits, scores etc.
 

Where are you getting the player's recovery input? Is in it key#.c , @cmd, or @script?

DC

[BonusJZ]

Recover input is performed with @cmd , aiflags changes also , back to idle trigger - in which character is frozen on screens - is performed by @script.

I have added more frame for @script plus bbox (if all fails) so even if this happen again (which never happen to me during many tests)  enemy should be able to hit you and everything back to normal (in short - right now 10 triger frames must fail opose to only 1).

[Damon Caskey]

That probably should fix it.

You might also want to consider the use of key#.c and flags to do the job instead though. In your fall animation, you set flag:

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dropframe 1
landframe  3

frame up
@cmd {X = 1}
frame peak
@cmd {X = 0}
frame down
frame laying


Then in a key# script:

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if player# pressed jump
AND
X = 1
AND
HP >= 3
Then
X = 0
Set counter animation.

This would 100% guarantee the counter animation would work only when it is supposed to, and also force the player to actually time their press of Jump instead of holding it whenever getting knocked down.

DC

[BonusJZ]

That can be easily solved with playerkeys(iPIndex, 0, "jump"); but I want to make this move really usefull ....

[Damon Caskey]

True, but I was under impression from previous posts you were all about strict timing and such on every move. Anyway, the key#.c model model was not about key timing; that can be taken care of lots of ways, it is more to get rid of bugs.

You'll find that you can never guarantee something always works as you intended when running frame based input checks. It might work 99% of the time, but that 1% will come up sooner or later. That's just the way things are in the engine. Only using event scripts ensures absolute 100% that you will get player input exactly when and how you want it.

DC

[BonusJZ]

That was not easy decision - but in the end I chose easier to players road for first release. Its really not a problem to change it

[cleric]

pleeeeeaaaaaase, optimise it for phat 

[Damon Caskey]

pleeeeeaaaaaase, optimise it for phat 

Cleric, you can't "optimize" it for phat. You can port it, but it won't be the same game. Some elements (probably quite a few) would have to be cut.

DC

[vdalmonte]

That's incredible! We really needed something like this: Arcade-style survival horror!
By the way, I only tried once, so I'm not sure this is gonna show up again but I got stuck at stage 3 at the cemetary, prolly cos I didn't destroy all the tombstones...

[BonusJZ]

You don't need to destroys tombstones at all - zombies find the way out - just wait a little .

But was that psp or pc version - but im pretty sure it not happen again