Ryuko No Ken Nekketsu complete

[Phemt]

Phemt, the download link is on the first page.
http://lavalit.com:8080/index.php/topic,3093.0.html
where it says "download"

Oh... then it means it doesn't work for me... as i said before... 

[krizalid]

because you have loaded the PC version not even hear my opinion?

Why do my old games (like Fatal Fury and Golden Ax) were ignored, and this is not it?

Why all my posts by aid have been ignored and now my MOD is required?

Why was my request to update the mod to fatal fury was ignored?

However I came to accept the upload ... this is a matter of principle!
yours are taking the game to me?

[SX]

This seems to be directed at me, So... lets try and resolve the issues at hand.

because you have loaded the PC version not even hear my opinion?

As far as hosting the mod, I don't see why you would not allow us to do this since you do use our website as a resource for acquiring the engine and all its members input/feedback.  Just trying to make it easier for our members to download your mod, since you are using those terrible services such as megaupload and rapidshare.

Why do my old games (like Fatal Fury and Golden Ax) were ignored, and this is not it?

Are you asking why are they not hosted here?  Well my friend I will fix that asap, as I'm too wondering no-one has uploaded them here as well. 

Why all my posts by aid have been ignored and now my MOD is required?
Why was my request to update the mod to fatal fury was ignored?

I'm not sure I understand what you mean....  But if I could help I would and I'm pretty sure others here would as well.....

However I came to accept the upload ... this is a matter of principle!
yours are taking the game to me?

I don't understand this comment, We are not taking anything from you, Infact we are trying to help you by having a guaranteed place of storage, so people don't have to use those services and at the same time promote your work by having multiple links directed towards your site....


If there is something I can do for you just name it......  I will try to help as much as possible.

[krizalid]

The question that makes me nervous is that you have loaded the mod without my consent ... I came to agree, and find the site already ...

Have you complained of. Exe as if I want to mislead you, I have treated as a criminal ... and I did not say anything, but at least I want to listen to me.

[SX]

I have no problems whats so ever with you wanting to rename the executable and providing an installer for the application to make it look like an entirely custom work.  The only problem I have is that you did not read the BSD License which states the following:

  1. Redistributions of source code and/or binary form must retain
     the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the
     following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials
     provided with the distribution.

These documents that are included with every engine release are also to be included with the executable when distributing. 

If you would like for us to host your executable installer as well, then I have no problems.  Just update your exe installer and include the documentation that was provided to you when you downloaded OpenBOR (README, LICENSE, COMPILING) and update your readme file to state (senileteam and lavalit websites) and we are all on the same page.

[krizalid]

I have not been angry because the pak is on lavalit, but because someone thought that my. Exe was something for fraud ...

To me what you uploaded is ok... but the wait could my consent,not believe you?

[Damon Caskey]

krizalid, with all due respect,

A) Nobody said the .exe was for fraud. What we did say is that it's a poor way to distribute a module. If you still insist using the installer.exe to distribute, you have no choice but to pack in the license too. This is not a Lavalit ruling. It is the way the official BSD license works. Otherwise you are in violation and are not entitled to use the OpenBOR engine in any capacity.

B) We don't need your consent to distribute the module, because you are using Lavalit and its resources to advertise for free. If you want to use this forum to bring traffic to your module on another site, you concede us the right to host it. If this is a problem, then ask for us to remove your module and all of the threads concerning it.

DC

[krizalid]

DC,that you have written you...

As for my own opinion on this mod..I don't have one. It looks very interesting, but packing it into a pointless and dangerous installation batch is a deal breaker for me. If it is ever made available as a conventional upload, I'd love to have a look.

[Damon Caskey]

You misunderstand what that word means.

Dangerous != Fraudulent.

Dangerous refers to that fact that to play your module, people have to run an .exe that takes control of their start menu files. It could very well do some very nasty stuff to their computer unless you set the installation file up perfectly. It's also just an unnecessary step. Zip the module with engine included. User unzips, runs the OpenBOR.exe and their playing. How hard can it be?

Fraudulent would mean you are trying to do bad things intentionally. I don't believe you are.

DC

[krizalid]

DC, the installation was created with a program and it is safe, if you do not like you only have to say I do not like the installation! not to say that it is dangerous because it is a lie

[Damon Caskey]

Spare me the rhetoric, I've been in the information services business for 15 years and I know what is or isn't a good idea. Even when created by professionals installation files are notorious for causing havoc. They should never be employed unless absolutely necessary.

Because of that I'll warn other users as I see fit about it and they are free to make their own judgments. You are free to disagree in principal and that's fine. However, essentially calling me a liar is NOT the best way to go about it, nor a very smart thing to do.

DC

[krizalid]

   
you are right, the installation is not so good if you read the trhead not download the installation file from our website download the file .pak from lavalit
We apologize to everyone for having damaged the pc ....

[krizalid]

krizalid, with all due respect,

A) Nobody said the .exe was for fraud. What we did say is that it's a poor way to distribute a module. If you still insist using the installer.exe to distribute, you have no choice but to pack in the license too. This is not a Lavalit ruling. It is the way the official BSD license works. Otherwise you are in violation and are not entitled to use the OpenBOR engine in any capacity.

B) We don't need your consent to distribute the module, because you are using Lavalit and its resources to advertise for free. If you want to use this forum to bring traffic to your module on another site, you concede us the right to host it. If this is a problem, then ask for us to remove your module and all of the threads concerning it.

DC

   
I thought there is that I want to delete everything and banned me.

[Damon Caskey]

That was not a threat krizald, nor would it have been a ban. It was what you would call a deal. Basically these are the options you have for hosting a module:

1) Host it only on Lavalit. Advertise it on Lavalit or anywhere else you like.

2) Host it yourself or somewhere else, and do not allow Lavalit to host it. You would not be allowed to advertise on Lavalit, but that wouldn't stop you from advertising at other places.

3) Host it yourself or somewhere else AND on Lavalit.  You can advertise anywhere you like.

What I was telling you is that if you find it unacceptable for Lavalit to host a copy of your mod, we would remove it, but also all of the advertisements for it. Nothing else. That's not a ban on you posting other things.

The reason we do this is to make sure all modules are in a single place where people can get them. It also helps to keep the community from becoming fragmented the way Mugen did. We are not trying to stop you from using other hosts or hosting the module yourself. It's not like we could do that anyway. But if you or another modder says "No copy on lavalit", then it also isn't fair to use Lavalit to draw attention to the other place.

DC

[krizalid]

   
remove all the mod in our blog if you do not just delete the blog so we think they can fulfill our request?